The poem in the show was written by Mustafa's companion, Yayha Bey. In real life, Yayha Bey also did write a poem too. So it was not Suleiman himse Including those of John Freely. However, her philanthropy is in contrast to this as she cared for the poor. And there is no problem in distinguishing the difference between her, Gulfem Hatun and Fulane Hatun. Likewise Abdullah Frres's children were not slaves by nature. 190.218.117.86 (talk) 01:47, 29 February 2016 (UTC)Reply[reply], I beg to differ, in many books (arts, literature whatever you may call) she has been known as Sultana. [14] She is the sultan's consort with the most portraits in her name in the Ottoman Empire, though the portraits are imaginary depictions by painters. As Mulkhurub Bahar Idarovna blossomed into an eye dazzling beauty, her father saw this as an opportunity to strengthen the political relationship between the Caucasus and Ottoman Dynasty. Simply click 'close' in the top right corner to continue reading! It is clear by your statement that you're being subjective about this: you're looking for an excuse rather than solid facts to call Mahidevran a sultana. This woman could be Mahidevran or could also be Gulfem or the first unknown wife of Suleiman. Hope you got my point. As far as I knowWorldandhistory (talk) 09:53, 6 April 2016 (UTC) Because none of these people neither Ottomans nor foreign visitors were permitted into the inner circle of the imperial harem, which was surrounded by multiple walls, they largely relied on the testimony of the servants or courtiers or on the popular gossip circulating around Istanbul. 16th-century women. According to a source he was executed that very year on charges of planning to dethrone his father; his guilt for the treason of which he was accused remains neither proven nor disproven. [4] Hurrem's influence on Suleiman was so significant that rumors circulated around the Ottoman court that the sultan had been bewitched.[5]. WebDeath 3 Feb 1581 (aged 8081) Bursa, Bursa, Turkey. Not only is the phrasing leaving much to be desired, the conclusion is also a subjective speculation presented as a fact. In 2019, mention of the Russian origin of Hurrem Sultan was removed from the visitor panel near her tomb at the Sleymaniye Mosque in Istanbul at the request of the Ukrainian Embassy in Turkey.[48]. For the series' last season, she is portrayed by Turkish actress Vahide Perin. [17], Suleiman's mother, Hafsa Sultan, partially suppressed the rivalry between the two women. I already gave you all evidence, but you insist on calling her a sultana because you "assume" Birinci Kadin and Sultan mean the same: they are applied to concubine and legal wife accordingly and therefore don't mean the same. But at the end of the day, that's all irrelevant. She did not spend her last years in poverty, as her stepson, Alex2006 (talk) 15:04, 12 March 2016 (UTC)Reply[reply], @Keivan.f I haven't searched about mahidvran but happen to have read about her. Glbahar (given name) 1500s births. No title is suitable for this page, niether Sultan nor Hatun since users can't agree. This tradition was called Sancak Beylii. [21], Around 1533/1534 (the exact date is unknown),[11] Suleiman married Hurrem in a magnificent formal ceremony. Nedim Ardoa (talk) 06:21, 31 January 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply], She was an Albanian; her father, Abdullah Recai was a musician and her brother was Nakkashan Adem. +14 more. Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:E8:8BCE:C01:ED43:4385:BB24:1ABE (talk) 09:23, 10 May 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply], (moved from user TP) The change of titles was to differentiate a legal wife from a concubine/consort/unrecognized wife or however you want to call it. All these authors could've have used this phrase simply because they didn't know what the real father's name was, like I said "this name was and is very common for any royal family as well as a common family in any Islamic dynasty." Subscribe to our weekly newsletter and stay up to date on History of Royal Women's articles! "Sultan" had many meanings throughout history and did reflect the status and the way of interacting of the times; if we want to accurately depict history then, at last, she's a "hatun". She is called "Mahidevran Hatun Valide Sultan Mustafa" which is translated as "Empress Mahidevran mother of Prince Mustafa". Magnificent century (Muhtesem Yuzy by I heart Duncan James. [16]:132, Many years later, towards the end of Suleiman's long reign, the rivalry between his sons became evident. WebAccording to some reports he died of natural causes, while others say that Mahidevran, the mother of Sehzade Mustafa gave the order to kill Sehzade Mehmet because he could take It is believed that Hurrem's influence contributed to Suleiman's decision. Everyone has a right to put their opinion and I just put mine. In the times of Suleyman, not everyone could be addressed that way. Prince Idar took this as an opportunity to make a good relationship with their rapidly spending neighboring dynasty, as young Prince Sulieman was only a few year older (if not the same age) than his most beautiful daughter. Who thought it was acceptable to post this? [46], In 2007, Muslims in Mariupol, a port city in Ukraine opened a mosque to honour Roxelana.[47]. Prominent Ukrainian writer Pavlo Zahrebelny describes Hurrem as "an intelligent, kind, understanding, openhearted, candid, talented, generous, emotional and grateful woman who cares about the soul rather than the body; who is not carried away with ordinary glimmers such as money, prone to science and art; in short, a perfect woman."[43]. The death of television icon Betty White received a lot of attention in popular culture. I am giving you answer about Mahidevran Sultan's rank.According to reliable sources it is confirmed that Mahidevran Sultan was Suleiman's Bas kadin(chief consort or chief lady).This was for those women who bore the eldest male child of reigning Sultan.As Mahidevran Sultan was the mother of Sehzade Mustafa,eldest son of Suleiman the magnificent,it is very logical that she held the rank Bas kadin or Birinci Kadin,it's from me which is logical. p. 401. In this case, Suleiman not only broke the old custom, but began a new tradition for the future Ottoman sultans: To marry in a formal ceremony and to give their consorts significant influence on the court, especially in matters of succession. Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.218.117.86 (talk) 20:21, 3 March 2016 (UTC)Reply[reply], It is of much importance that the article you cite mentions Nurbanu Sultan as being a "bas kadin" when talking about the fact that, despite "kadin" and "haseki sultan" carried different meanings, they had equivalent importance in the harem. [20] Hurrem became the only partner of the ruler and received the title of Haseki, which means the favorite. Khondoker Jobair (talk) 06:10, 16 February 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply], I think you are mistaken my friend,,Mahidevran Sultan was the first chief consort and the proud mother Sehzade mustafa,the most potential heir apparent of the throne for succesion of his father.And you are saying that she was not even a concubine??? WebThe result of the strife for Mahidevran was that she was exiled with her son Mustafa to live in the province of Manisa, where the latter became a Sultan governor. Around 1530, Mustafa was appointed to govern Manisa, as a part of his education and old Turkish tradition. [24] This title, used for a century, reflected the great power of imperial consorts (most of them were former slaves) in the Ottoman court, elevating their status higher than Ottoman princesses, and making them the equals of empresses consort in Europe. I do NOT understand. That's very funny!!! The name Abdullah may be used as a generic patronymic (father's name) for slave converts but this name was and is very common for any royal family as well as a common family in any Islamic dynasty. [6] 113.203.150.188 (talk) 02:19, 1 March 2016 (UTC)Reply[reply], Popular culture and Ottoman court etiquette are two different things. Birinci Kadin was used for wives only, Brinici Kadin was not used for concubines or ordinary consorts, Birinci Kadin meant First Wife/Senior Consort. I was wrong I admitted that and removed the contents sourced from the blog. Timaru, 7910 Best. The precise year that she entered the harem is unknown, but scholars believe that she became Suleiman's concubine around the time he became sultan in 1520. Mustafa became verypopular in the region under the guidance of his mother. "[29], Hurrem Sultan is known as the first woman in Ottoman history to concern herself with state affairs. Not to mention that "was a chief consort" doesn't make much sense, because a implies that there is more than one which is a contradiction to the meaning of chief. This new woman was the famous Hrrem Sultan. [20] After the death of Mustafa, Mahidevran lost her status in the palace as the mother of the heir apparent and moved to Bursa. Whether this phrase refers to a warm friendship between the Polish King and Ottoman Haseki, or whether it suggests a closer relation, the degree of their intimacy definitely points to a special link between the two states at the time. At age 26 Suleiman takes the throne. [15], Roxelana, called Hurrem Sultan by the Ottomans, probably entered the harem around seventeen years of age. https://books.google.com/books?id=VLVoAAAAMAAJ&dq, http://www.odatv.com/n.php?n=iste-gercek-mahidevran-0910121200, https://books.google.com.pk/books?id=tjFpAAAAMAAJ&dq=mahidevran+sultan&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=mahidevran, https://books.google.com.pk/books?id=JYk-AQAAIAAJ&q=mahidevran+sultan&dq=mahidevran+sultan&hl=en&sa=X&redir_esc=y, https://books.google.com.pk/books?id=ZXUQBwAAQBAJ&pg=PT95&dq=mahidevran+sultan&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj7ntDe0sjKAhUGZg8KHRUPAg8Q6AEIOTAG#v=onepage&q=mahidevran%20sultan&f=false, https://books.google.com.pk/books?id=SAIZCAAAQBAJ&pg=PA86&dq=mahidevran+sultan&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwix5YWtk83KAhUMHxoKHSPbApQQ6AEIRTAI#v=onepage&q=mahidevran%20&f=false, https://books.google.com.pk/books?id=5WT1BQAAQBAJ&pg=PT240&dq=mahidevran+sultan&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwix5YWtk83KAhUMHxoKHSPbApQQ6AEITTAJ#v=onepage&q=mahidevran&f=false. It is traditionally believed that Hurrem, along with her daughter Mihrimah and her son-in-law Rustem, orchestrated Mustafas execution by turning his father, the Sultan, against him. Selim could have helped Mahidevran out of guilt that he lived and became Sultan while her son did not. And Mahidevran was the proud mother of Sehzade Mustafa,who was the most potential and talented heir apparent to the throne.And Mahidevran was not like the other Consorts of Suleiman,like Gulfem or Fulane.After the death of the sons of other consorts by diseases She was the mother of only son of Suleiman the magnificent and according to the ottoman tradition sje was Suleiman's Bas kadin,which was the most powerful position for a Sultan's consort before creation and after abolition of the title Haseki Sultan.As Leslie P. Pierce said that during Suleiman's reign the title for Queen mother, Princesses and Sultan's chief consort changed to Sultan from Hatun.And other ordinary consorts of Sultan held the title Hatun.And Mahidevran Sultan was favorite and chief consort of Suleiman before hurrem,and she was the mother of crown prince of the ottoman empire. You completely twisted the question and answered what I didn't ask. [9][10], Though Mahidevran Sultan may not have been a Haseki, she was the mother of ehzade Mustafa, the eldest surviving son of the reigning Sultan and the crown prince of the imperial throne. I shall wait for your response until few days then revert your changes, if you are unable to prove that this "Abdullah" was indeed a slave and not a free person, in which case, M would have been a "gifted wife" (married to S not legally but rather tough Nikah 'urfi). Please correct that. Retrieverlove (talk) 08:43, 28 December 2016 (UTC)Reply[reply], "[] and the Sultan's favorite or chief consorts changed to Sultan []. Now Mahidevran became a chief consort as a mother of the only prince in the Empire. Memorial ID. Some sources say she moved to Topkap, not because of the fire, but as a result of her marriage to Suleiman. As far as I have researched, every Web verifying organization has approved of it. If you are not convinced we can try to get this on reliable sources noticeboard. She quotes the sultan as saying, "with the old king we were like brothers, and if it pleases the All-Merciful God, with this king we will be as father and son." [1] Mahidevran, concubine of Suleiman the Magnificent Birth Place: Bosporus, Turkey Birthday: 1500 Death Date: February 3, 1581(age 81) Learn more about merges. In 1521, Mustafa became chief prince due to his half-brothers deaths. Mahidevran played a great role during her sons education as governor. Hurrem Sultan makes plans to get rid of ehzade Mustafa and his mother Mahidevran Sultan as she sees them as a threat for the throne. After the death of Suleiman's mother Hafsa Sultan in 1534, Hurrem's influence in the palace increased, and she took over the ruling of the Harem. [5] She was born in the town of Rohatyn 68km (42mi) southeast of Lww (Lviv), a major city of the Ruthenian Voivodeship of the Crown of the Kingdom of Poland,[6] in what is now Ukraine. [12], European ambassadors of that period called her la Rossa, la Rosa, and Roxelana, meaning "the Russian woman"[13] or "the Ruthenian one" for her alleged Ruthenian origins. For Sultan Selim I was indeed the best King the Ottomans had, up until then. If, however, you can get an admin to permanently block the page from any further editing you may do so. This King (Sultan) did not have many successors left by 1511, for his only surviving son was Prince Sulieman (who later became Suleiman the Magnificent). Nedim Ardoa (talk) 08:32, 8 January 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply], The page Mahidevran Sultan should be moved to Mahidevran Glbahar Hatun because Mahidevran was never a concubine or a Haseki Sultan and Hrrem Sultan was the first Haseki Sultan.--Retrieverlove 1:09, 22 June 2014, According to Leslie P. Peirce, prior to the creation of the title Haseki Sultan for Hrrem Sultan, all the Ottoman consorts carried an alternative royal title, "Hatun".But Leslie P. Peirce also said that during 16th century(Suleiman's reign) the title Hatun for a valide,princesses and Sultan's consorts were changed by Sultan(it's called Sultana in the harem to distinguish between male and female). [40] Her mausoleum is adjacent to Suleiman's, a separate and more somber domed structure, at the courtyard of the Sleymaniye Mosque. On the contrary, I sympathize with Mahidevran Hatun. Life in a Sultans harem was not glamorous and it certainly wasnt about love. Mahidevran ga [27] In defiance of this age-old custom, Hurrem stayed behind in the harem, even after her sons went to govern the empire's remote provinces. 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One more thing, though "Kadin" was (according to Peirce) a SLANG term for Hatun (woman) created by Ottomans (respectfully I guess) nonetheless it was used for respected wives of Sultans and Shezades. During the start of 15th century, the Ottoman dynasty was taking over the territories of its rivals more rapidly than before. Worldandhistory (talk) 00:10, 25 September 2016 (UTC)Reply[reply], You did not answer my first point, no where in the article does it say she belonged to a noble family, the article is now free from any claims of her being scion, the article simply focuses on her origins. Thank you 113.203.177.1 (talk) 18:32, 28 March 2016 (UTC) [36] In Jerusalem she established the Haseki Sultan Imaret in 1552, a public soup kitchen to feed the poor,[37] which was said to have fed at least 500 people twice a day. In this article the sentence about Mahidevran's origin had been changed several times. WebAnd Mahidevran was the proud mother of Sehzade Mustafa,who was the most potential and talented heir apparent to the throne.And Mahidevran was not like the other Consorts of Popular culture is defined from what had actually happened in the past, the existence of this woman wasn't thousand of years ago that we can assume the popular culture has adopted "myths". Her love of poetry is considered one of the reasons behind her being heavily favoured by Suleiman, who was a great admirer of poetry. In one of her letters, she wrote: Under his pen name, Muhibbi, Sultan Suleiman composed this poem for Hurrem Sultan: "Throne of my lonely niche, my wealth, my love, my moonlight. [23], Hurrem became the first consort to receive the title Haseki Sultan. For this reason, she has become a controversial figure in Ottoman history subject to allegations of plotting against and manipulating her political rivals. Her full name was Glbahar Mahidevran Sultan 1 due to her great beauty; Glbahar means rose of the spring and Mahidevran means the most beautiful in all. It means there was no external reason for the death, such as a traumatic injury. Mustafa and Mahidevran were sent back to Amasya. Although Sultans didn't used to lawfully wed their wives, Birinci Kadins were considered and treated just like lawfully wedded wives. 190.218.117.86 (talk) 05:26, 3 March 2016 (UTC)Reply[reply], Excuse me one more time. While she was serving as the mother to heir apparent she was considered a Sultan's family member (Ottoman court etiquette), hence the title. Your stubbornness of using only Peirce's provided information while neglecting other possible sources shows your own prejudice, not anyone else's. Muradiye complex. Mahidevran Sultan probably had a stillborn child or short-lived daughter somewhere between 1521 and 1524. Amasya was one of the farthest provinces from the capital. [32] After three other grand viziers in eight years, Suleiman selected Hurrem's son-in-law, Damat Rstem Pasha, husband of Mihrimah, to become the grand vizier. If you must, then make the title read as "Mahidevran" only. You can infer and speculate and theorize all you want, but history is history and I find it highly disrespectful and arrogant that you think your abstractions are worth more than the reality of events. But like I said I assume that was Mahidevran who accompanied sulieman I am not sure because the book only mentioned his favorite accompanied him in a formal ceremony to Intanbul when he became Sultan. The leading cause of death in subjects with preserved EF was noncardiovascular disease (49%) versus coronary heart disease (43%) for subjects with reduced EF. The series follows the reign of Sultan Sleyman (r. 1520-1566), known in the West as Suleiman the Magnificent. Another conflict occurred when Ibrahim and his former mentor, skender elebi, repeatedly clashed over military leadership and positions during the Safavid war. No need to change the title. Hurrem later managed to become the Haseki Sultan or "favorite concubine" of the Ottoman imperial harem. [20] She pleads with the King to trust her envoy Hassan Aa who took another message from her by word of mouth. Not interested? Sultans had previously married only foreign free noble ladies. Takabeg (talk) 09:10, 24 June 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply], Someone needs to check the pronunciation: stress and vowel length. Also please keep the recent source in mind about an interview with her alleged descendant. But "sultan" is not a nickname: "sultan" is a royal manner of addressing that is deeply ingrained in Ottoman culture and reflects the times of the events that unfolded(such as the change in their use as generations passed). Mahidevran madegreat efforts to protect her only son from assassinations, but she could not prevent his death. "She was said to have been the most beautiful girl in the dynasty and out-stood in beauty in a land which was known for it. It's not her possible title and you think this is a joke. Scholars thus agree that European artists created a visual identity for Ottoman women that was largely imagined. "The Speech of Ibrahim at the Coronation of Maximilian II", Thomas Conley. Despite Suleimans disfavour, he was thefavourite of the army and governors. If you ask about Istanbul, the city still suffers from the plague; however, it is not like the previous one. There are reasons to believe that these two letters were more than just diplomatic gestures, and that Suleiman's references to brotherly or fatherly feelings were not a mere tribute to political expediency. She learns about the pregnancy of Nigar Kalfa through Gulsah and she informs Hatice Sultan of his husband's unfaithfulness. Moreover, he was famous for his generosity and fair decisions. Also, she became an important symbol of how ottoman consorts never had a permanent position in Harem and politics as it was only after Mahidevran with whom the Ottoman started respecting their royal consorts, it is obvious, that when Hurrem Sultan was given such elevation the same time the mother of heir apparent was alive and living in the Harem, that Mahidevran was also considered as Sultan's family member and hence the title. The source is "BBC your paintings". Look up Idar of Karbardia, he did existed and like I said "even if there is a slightest possibility" then making a statement would be wrong. Bas kadin literally means "Head Woman", and if this "head woman" status didn't exist at that time then why she has been referred as "Ba kadin" or Birinci kadin by numerous books? If you can't answer logically or factually, then don't bother polluting this section with your not so smart "History" idea. () LUCKYEYE GROUP ALSO MAKES NO REPRESENTATIONS OR WARRANTIES AS TO WHETHER THE INFORMATION ACCESSIBLE VIA THIS WEB SITE, OR ANY WEB SITE WITH WHICH IT IS LINKED, IS ACCURATE, COMPLETE, OR CURRENT. All the facts have been laid out but you still want to call Mahidevran a sultana when she wasn't: she didn't legally marry Suleyman, nor was the mother of a sultan. ((reftalk))Reply[reply], There is no consensus to add the interview of an "alleged descendant" of Mahidevran to this article. Which memorial do you think is a duplicate of Mahidevran Hatun (174192522)? Therefore they can't be used. Best:) - Worldandhistory (talk) 15:18, 30 September 2016 (UTC)Reply[reply], Mahidevran Sultan in Trke Bilgi = tr:Meahidevran Sultan in Turkish Wikipedia. The information given in this page reveals that despite being called addressed as a sultana she wasn't one, and before that edit came to be the page addressed her as hatun (and many others too [1] ), which is also a title she's been given in other sources. Born in Ruthenia (then an eastern region of the Kingdom of Poland, now Rohatyn, Ukraine) to a Ruthenian Orthodox priest, Hurrem was captured by Crimean Tatars during a slave raid and eventually taken to Istanbul, the Ottoman capital. Imber, Colin (2002). Even lowest ranking maids of the Harem were called Hatun out of respect. WebMahidevranwas born on January 01, 1500 (died on February 03, 1581, she was 81 years old) in Bosporus. Images of the chief consort emphasized her beauty and wealth, and she is almost always depicted with elaborate headwear. In the Istanbul harem, Hurrem became a rival to Mahidevran and her influence over the sultan soon became legendary. The title of this page should read as Mahidevran or Mahidevran Gulbahar. Hurrem eventually achieved power, influencing the politics of the Ottoman Empire. Now Mahidevran became a chief consort as a mother of the only prince in the Empire. Meanwhile, another woman grabbed the eye of Suleiman; she gave birth to her first son (Mehmet) that same year and endangered Mahidevrans position. This new woman was the famous Hrrem Sultan. It is explicitly explained that the title "Haseki Sultan" was created when Hrrem married Suleyman. And only after the release of the series Magnificent Century, where she was one of the main characters, various information about this sultana began to appear on the Internet.As Mahidevran's contemporaries wrote, in life she was a black-haired beauty with brown eyes. Either way, this was another significant break from established customs, as Sultan Mehmed the Conqueror had specifically issued a decree to the effect that no women would be allowed to reside in the same building where government affairs were conducted. 190.218.117.86 (talk) 22:51, 3 March 2016 (UTC)Reply[reply], The thing is, unlike yours, I'm not fabricating a theory! This is your own point of view that just because she was called cariye she was of non-notable family. Empress of the East: How a European Slave Girl Became Queen of the Ottoman Empire. [16]:130 Suleiman and Hurrem's last child, ehzade Cihangir was born with a hunchback, but by that time Hurrem had borne enough healthy sons to secure the future of the Ottoman dynasty. [11] She was to bear the majority of Suleiman's children. Khondoker Jobair (talk) 06:37, 16 February 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply], Keivan, do you really have access to the proposed source? Even as a consort, her power was comparable with the most powerful woman of the Imperial Harem, who by tradition was the sultan's mother or valide sultan. In attempting to avoid the execution of her sons, Hurrem used her influence to eliminate those who supported Mustafa's accession to the throne. ", That's not the correct conclusion, though. 18th century portrait of Hurrem Sultan kept at Topkap Palace. I am sorry but Facts do NOT leave room for doubts. Suleiman started to see him as a great danger to his rule. Though Hurrem must have been called Sultana first, the Ottoman dynamics simply couldn't allow such discrepancy within the Harem that once the title "Sultan" is started being used for favorite wives, that they don't called the first favorite with the same title. Mahidevran tried to save her only grandson, but she failed again. Mahidevran was his most trustable advisor as well as chief of his harem. 125.209.82.212 (talk) 20:52, 3 March 2016 (UTC)Reply[reply], It is stated that kadins and hasekis carried equal rights in the harem, so why are you so passionate to call her sultana if she wasn't married to Suleyman? If it was up to people making subjective propositions for every wikipedia page, then there would be millions of the same subject; there can't be 6 billion wikipedia pages of the sun, there can't be 6 billion pages wikipedia pages of earth, and of course there can't be 6 billion pages of Mahidevran. Concubine by definition is not a slave. According to him, Mahidevran Sultan was the daughter of Prince Idar Temryuk.Was it really so? WebMahidevran Turbesi3.jpg 315 470; 22 KB. [34], Although the stories about Hurrem's role in executions of Ibrahim, Mustafa, and Kara Ahmed are very popular, actually none of them are based on first-hand sources. And for your information, if you read all the wikipedia articles, all women that didn't marry the sultan stayed as hatun unless they became Valide (as Nurbanu). While the book is a reliable source as per WP, it seems you only want to cite this book and use only this book's information on all the articles related to the Ottomans; their daughters, princes, wives, mothers, etc. In official account, not all consorts who was referred as SULTANA was legally married to Sultan nor was the Valide Sultan. The Tatars may have first taken her to the Crimean city of Kaffa, a major centre of the Ottoman slave trade, before she was taken to Istanbul. [8] [9] Though Hurrem was more favored, Mahidevran was still a wife and mother of heir apparent. Hurrem remained in the sultan's court for the rest of her life, enjoying a close and relationship with her husband, and having six children with him, including the future sultan, Selim II. Roxelana (Ukrainian: , romanized:Roksolana; lit. And there is lots of lots of doubts about the title of this woman. Scholars have wondered if Hurrem's alliance with Mihrimah Sultan and Rstem Pasha helped secure the throne for one of Hurrem's sons. Jobair khondoker (talk) 17:41, 2 March 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply], "But Leslie P. Peirce also very clearly said that in 16th and 17th century(during Suleiman's reign) tge title hatun for a valide(Queen mother),Sultan's(emperor) chief consort and princesses was replaced with Sultan.As Mahidevran was the first chief consort and Ba Kadn (chief consort) according to ottoman tradition so it's very easy to find out that she held the title Sultan from the very beginning." Mustafa became chief prince due to his rule all irrelevant ( talk ) 05:26, 3 2016. 29 ], Suleiman 's children were not slaves by nature ( Muhtesem Yuzy by I heart Duncan James unknown. Disfavour, he was famous for his generosity and fair decisions state.! 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